tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5012577834296987267.post5863782518200657098..comments2023-09-13T16:28:53.701-07:00Comments on Michaltastik Spewing Out Her Opinions: Judaism and the Almighty SkirtMichaltastikhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06358698308334285154noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5012577834296987267.post-74613854826667781662010-05-11T21:18:51.454-07:002010-05-11T21:18:51.454-07:00There's no room in halacha for skirts above th...There's no room in halacha for skirts above the knee, notwithstanding what people do. Officially the ankles shouldn't be revealed (even with stockings/leggings) either. People are just too lax...הצעיר שלמה בן רפאל לבית שריקי ס"טhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04835340110056405173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5012577834296987267.post-6255337695167791202010-05-11T21:18:51.455-07:002010-05-11T21:18:51.455-07:00Something which is inconsistent with halacha itsel...Something which is inconsistent with halacha itself cannot be considered minhag. One could say his "minhag" is to drive on Shabbos, but he is still violating halacha.Miriamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5012577834296987267.post-84385265041852646612010-05-12T12:06:01.176-07:002010-05-12T12:06:01.176-07:00This annoys me too. Especially when said above-th...This annoys me too. Especially when said above-the-knee skirt is worn with VERY high heels. What part of that is modest?AztecQueen2000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5012577834296987267.post-69106070310720911802010-05-12T17:11:58.492-07:002010-05-12T17:11:58.492-07:00There are a ton of things that born Jews do that w...There are a ton of things that born Jews do that we converts couldn't get away with for fear of losing or Jewishness. Sadly, it's not an equality thing. I don't see much we can do about it. Well, except blog. :)MamaRosehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11131153199009850667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5012577834296987267.post-54977565680463997982010-05-12T17:44:25.077-07:002010-05-12T17:44:25.077-07:00Aztec, let's not forget the slit up the back o...Aztec, let's not forget the slit up the back of the skirt in question. As you likely know, they not only wear skirts ABOVE the knee but it usually has a slit even further.Michaltastikhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06358698308334285154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5012577834296987267.post-71710094084919866382010-05-13T06:37:49.663-07:002010-05-13T06:37:49.663-07:00Most skirts are immodest. Religious women should b...Most skirts are immodest. Religious women should be wearing pants. :-)alarbeanhttp://alarbean.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5012577834296987267.post-69538060425918493692010-05-13T10:34:33.535-07:002010-05-13T10:34:33.535-07:00So, it's your choice. You can concentrate on ...So, it's your choice. You can concentrate on the hypocritical jews who won't give you the time of day and who clearly are not living according to Torah values, OR, you can find the few people who aren't hypocritical and befriend them, learn from them, look up to them, become part of their family. I am FFB and know that my friends from certain circles will NEVER accept me as 'real' because I didn't grow up where they did, and I'm not like them. There's always an underlying 'you're not good enough'. Well, I am, you are, and why focus on those who don't think that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5012577834296987267.post-75312092010390270072010-05-13T14:25:40.659-07:002010-05-13T14:25:40.659-07:00Shouldn't we all just do what we know is right...Shouldn't we all just do what we know is right, and not worry about what anyone else is doing?Mystery Womanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06261372717440893787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5012577834296987267.post-19424820660940617282010-05-13T23:32:23.589-07:002010-05-13T23:32:23.589-07:00I'd give them more slack if I were you. Standa...I'd give them more slack if I were you. Standards of modesty vary a lot by culture and time. Pretty close to no one today follows the standards of tzniut as described in the Gemarah for example Moreover, hypocrisy about standards has also been around for a long time. For an an example illustrating both of these together the section in Shabbat which seems to imply that it wasn't uncommon for a women to have her entire face covered except a single eye, which she then put make up on. <br><br>It is also clear simply from looking at historical tshuvot that even within fairly small areas, standards of modesty could vary greatly.<br><br>The primary problem here is not the apparent lack of tzniut. The problem is the other problem you correctly observe: converts who dress the same way are treated poorly or assumed to be not really Jewish. The primary issue here is this double standard which exists across many different issues, not just tzniut.Joshuahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00637936588223855248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5012577834296987267.post-83653400129262460292010-05-16T12:17:44.478-07:002010-05-16T12:17:44.478-07:00Here is a pretty good article by Rav Willig which ...Here is a pretty good article by Rav Willig which mentions the halacha vs. minhag debate regarding tzniyus standards: http://www.torahweb.org/torah/2010/parsha/rwil_bamidbar.html<br><br>It's definitely not as simple as some people here are making it out to be - particularly with partial leg showing.Shades of Greyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02733139852424935591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5012577834296987267.post-43147511121752109152010-05-16T20:09:46.634-07:002010-05-16T20:09:46.634-07:00Joshua, can I give them slacks instead od slack? Y...Joshua, can I give them slacks instead od slack? You know-to cover themselves? on a serious note, how about I give them slack when they give me slack?Michaltastikhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06358698308334285154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5012577834296987267.post-73173103265531653482010-05-16T20:15:59.412-07:002010-05-16T20:15:59.412-07:00So Rav Willig says I can show half my thigh? This ...So Rav Willig says I can show half my thigh? This I gotta see... tomorrow when Im at school with the internet.Michaltastikhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06358698308334285154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5012577834296987267.post-21361114530731240522010-05-16T20:37:57.998-07:002010-05-16T20:37:57.998-07:00Ok, Shades, I just read the articles. It says quit...Ok, Shades, I just read the articles. It says quite clearly that the skirt must go to the knees but, not any higher. Exposing half the thigh as my corp fi classmates does is out of the question.Michaltastikhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06358698308334285154noreply@blogger.com